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Post by MDC ZIMBABWE on Mar 10, 2004 9:48:24 GMT -5
How true is this in our situation>>>>
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Post by Ren on Mar 12, 2004 1:40:23 GMT -5
I suppose it is quite obvious from my ealier article that I am of the oppion that in the case of MDC words have not been met by actions. I have also read bits of your economic blueprint, RESTART, at the least it makes good Ben-and-Betty type reading. I was most interested in you views on the Land issue; which, despite all you read in western media is and will remain, until resolved, the biggest thorn for Zimbabwe. In substance the MDC policy is no different to ZANU PF's position pre-the farm invasions. The MDC paper does emphasis justice, a noble concept, which depends on your individual definition of justice - but let us also remember that the ZANU route which was initially founded on broadly the same principles dragged as long as it did largely due to the lengthy legal procedures, we even had a referendum, ultimately leading to the violence. The MDC paper assumes a utopia in which everyone caves in and it's all swiftly settled - not good enough! we have been on this route before. The document reads like a big get out of jail card rather than a clear steer on policy, it avoids the contancious difficult details and provides woolly blanket answers. Guys this is not a game anymore!
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Post by Spitfire on Mar 15, 2004 9:20:52 GMT -5
MDC USA is full of perennial failures and guma guma's. They are all in there to make money by robbing people about Asylum issues. For example the Atlanta Chairman and some in his committee charge $500 to cook up an asylum story. They use MDC letterheads and MDC `leadership names to back fabricated stories. MDC does not get even get a penny of this money. Poor Matongo was given a paltry donation of about $100. The big chefs in NAD (in DC) make more money. They charge $800 for an asylum package and I know that like the DC one, they have done 40 applications and the MDC did not get anything. Musanyeperwe nemablood suckers ekuMDC. The majority of them are just disowned individuals. Very idiomatic group. As for ZUWA, the problem is that the shona's do not want to participate and as a result nothing will change. JT is a good leader and very respectable. Just call him and give him your views and he will change that. But do not call the MDC chairman coz anokutuka pafon nezvinonyadzisira like a true mahobho.
Investigate Now.
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Post by TM on Mar 16, 2004 19:16:42 GMT -5
Although I did not read the MDC policy on land am sure a policy that is based on reduced sizes of land will do us a lot of good. This is based on sound agricultural practises and the fact that the current redistribution has created some landlords. There are some people who want to distinguish ownership of more than two farms by saying the other one is family property. The question still remains "whose family could this be?". If you bought land soon after independence then at the inception of the fast-track or whatever name we give to land redistribution-you were not landless! I know people who got commercial farms but they can hardly grow maize in their backyard gardens. On the other hand I have worked with some rural people who do not have diplomas in agriculture but can tell you when to plant in order to get good yields-even in times of low rainfall.
What Gono is doing might produce the short term effects but a country that is dry on exports and relies on expropriating money from its citizens will not succeed. The monetary policy should be complemented by financial discipline from the government. Instead of reducing spending the government was expanded to accommodate spend forces devoid of any salvage value. What Gono is doing in correcting the financial sector is what the government should be doing in creating a conducive atmosphere for foreign investiment, economic growth, political freedom-the current situation is just one huge mess.
I would also want to understand why the MDC is mooting the idea of boycotting the 2005 elections. The MDC has a very strong basis to build on-a total of 53 seats in parliament (though presently parliament is the weakest organ of government). I want to encourage the MDC to take part in the elections although I personally witnessed truckloads of the Green Bombers causing untold havoc in the Hwedza-Buhera areas. Would this boycotting make the MDC a stronger party or it will be weakened by the time all this is done?
There is very little time left to confuse the voters-be very clear on what you want to do and do not send mixed signals.
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Post by Mpilo Moyo on Mar 29, 2004 10:14:21 GMT -5
I feel sad seeing our country going back to stone age politics simple because Mugabe is scared of listening to the voice of reason.However ,despite the fact that as has been all the years the elections will not be free and fair let us go and vote,and vote and vote untill it will become obvious even to the imbecile rthat we need change...and indeed change will come.Apathy will not help us to change........
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Post by Rod on Apr 7, 2004 19:42:55 GMT -5
iam in the US and shocked to hear about is happening in Atlanta and DC MDC is our part and it should stop thsese guys right away. i hope they know already and they should take action. kasifuni ukuyangiswa thina ngabantu laba.
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Post by Ren on Apr 15, 2004 4:24:18 GMT -5
The MDC US stuff, if true, is disheartening - but I suppose it should not be too surprising; in a bid to get as much support as possible MDC has been embracing just about anyone who has an issue with Mugabe, the good the bad and the outright ugly. MDC has become the collective noun of a mostly disingenuous group of people who oppose Mugabe - very scary. I will not be surprised if we find some of Mugabe’s ex-crones who are running away from criminal actions by the reserve bank finding their way into MDC, the anti-corruption move by Mugabe may be an electoral ploy but it won’t hurt the MDC if it too did a bit of spring cleaning.
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Post by tendai mugariri on May 20, 2004 9:22:15 GMT -5
How true is this in our situation>>>> may i have the mdc shadow cabinet |
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Post by tendai mugariri on May 20, 2004 9:22:54 GMT -5
How true is this in our situation>>>> may i have the mdc shadow cabinet |
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Post by phoenix on Jun 5, 2004 9:16:41 GMT -5
Could you please tell me where Mugabe often meets, and where he lives. I heard that he won't use the house that's being built very often at all. I'm British by the way, and I'm a sympathizer with the MDC.
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Post by Simone on Jun 10, 2004 9:36:54 GMT -5
We Zimbabweans desperately need help, I don’t know how we let things get this far but if things carry on in the direction that there are going there will be nothing let of us, I don’t understand how we have learned to sub-come to this subhuman treatment but enough is enough, and we can’t let this go on! No one thought that we would get so bad, but please something needs to be done.
Over the years we have let this situation get to the stage that it is at now, for if we had in the beginning stood up to the government and put a stop to this, we wouldn’t be in such turmoil today, but no one thought it would get this bad, so now I’m asking that we all stand together and stand up for our right, as the people who are ruling by force should to have the authority to destroy the live of millions and let people live in poverty while they get greedier and greedier, which just shows what kind of leaders they are!
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Post by Courage Shumba on Jul 10, 2004 5:21:09 GMT -5
Comrades
It is time in our entirity we began at once to show our solidarity and stance with the MDC.This is because Zanu pf can only make its true stance known once we begin to show that we are in the majority as a resistance and no matter what he says without following his words with appropriately responding conduct we are set to try our chance with the Mdc .I believe Zanu pf has virtually outlived its relevance,for as long as it exhumes its comfort from past gains.The achievements of yesterday are our fond or painful memories and history,but we live today,expect a future and our concerns regard the present state of our lives at very particular moments.In this respect,the hardship we suffer,if caused by injustice,corruption and negligence we must be within our senses to find alternatives.This is different if it were a flood,volcano or earthquake for which human intervention or wisdom is out of question.The situation we have today is out of conscious ,calculative and harmful intellect not a consenquence of natural misfortunes.Therefore even within the MDC it is possible for people to remain in their past glories ignoring momentous accumulation of questions.Yes the opposition managed to outfit Zanu pf penetration machinery but where do we go from here.It is like a football match at the finals,do you still use the formula you had suppose they destroyed their defence and filled dangerous attackers.The answer is you may need adjustments to suit the formula otherwise you lose sight of the fact that as a competing team they would not change anything unless it makes them stronger.
It is in this context that the opposition found new strategies of attacking and destroying the foundations on which the dictatorship is built. The dictatoship thrives on an opposition that they potray as a face for western imperialism and they manage to make us look at our efforts to change the system as synonimous with Morgan Tsvangirai personal self.The need to change the system is not partisan .It is the responsibility of all citizens to put the security and welfare of themselves in the construction of a system that is in itself of moral and social value to its authors.The transition requires great wit and calculation as it must be in mind that our final goal is to be free.Where elections can bring change let it be and where other methods can work let them be tried.At this moment we need to pursue our agenda under a political consensus that we are doing so to change the model of gorvenance which put elected people beyond reprimand.This becomes in our situation the Mdc .We need to show to Mugabe that even in the MDC we are advanced beyond the stage of mantaining in power people whose use in the present situation may prove to be outdated.
In reality this creates the reality that we are in principle and in practice against incompetence of any sort ,at any level in the new culture we are seeking for Zimbabwe.I believe we are doing more than changing parties but creating a new culture of honesty,transparency and freedom.We are talking of allowing independent broadcasters,seeing the germination of hundreds of private newspapers both national and local .We are talking of continuing the distribution of land for resettlement and commercial purposes whilst taking caution of the need to mantain a balance with strategic established farming operations without undermining the agenda to drastically destroy the colonial resource ownership patterns still insulting our intelligence.
We are talking about the practically endorsing the right of individuals to hold,share and fight for opinions they believe are foundations on which justice is reached.We are talking about more funding for education,for health,research ,housing,employment creation,crime control and social services.We are eager to reduce beurocracy,corruption and mismanagement..We are eager to cut tax and promote both internal and external investment .
We need to put such beliefs as our basis for supporting the Mdc.We need to keep such demands on and until they are met.That is the way forward.However we need to rid our society of crime syndicates like Zanu pf.We therefore need to start now to make the demands to Mdc whilst supporting it through and making concessions that our demands be met in the next gorvenment.
Courage Shumba
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Post by edmoe kwaramba on Jul 10, 2004 20:48:42 GMT -5
Good evening Zimbabwe!!!!!!
I just finished reading Courage Shumba's article and it really makes me feel proud that we have such vibrant and intelligence people in Zimbabwe. You sort of replied all the questions and what I have been trying to advocate for-constructive ideas on how we can liberate ourselves through MDC. I was really really challenged by some of the good ideas and advise that you said for the party as well as for the ruling government. If you can please read my latest article on leadreship of Sat.
I trully congratulate you Courage and hope all other articles from other Zimbabweans to follow will show innovation and high level of encouraging ideas, and thoughts.
Thank you
Edmore Kwaramba
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Post by Vukani on Jul 13, 2004 8:52:02 GMT -5
I agree with edmore that the piece written by Courage was very powerful. You are indeed an intelligent individual Mr Shumba. It is good to know that we stiil have people like you supporting change unlike others that i know who have sold out on the struggle for freedom. I believe the MDC is a vehicle for change in Zim and truly believe that they will bring about the change one day. They accuse the party of being sponsored by the West... ...This shouldn't come as a suprise to them as the have been sponsored by the same west all along. Who is now begging the demonic west through the IMF/WB to bankroll zim. Why aks for the devil's money. Isn't that double standards.
Who used to visit The West on vacations and shopping sprees...who schholed their children in the West. The whole argument of the MDC being demonised becase of support from the West has become childish indeed. The ANC also had Western sponsors during the War of liberation in SA. Pls people never listen or heed to zanupf because most of their arguments have become so stupid that u tend to wonder whether they themselves really believe in what the are saying. Let the forces of Liberation unite. Against keep it shumba and keep spreading the gospel wherever u r.
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Post by DEMO DEMO DEMO on Jul 14, 2004 20:19:51 GMT -5
CHINJA MAITIRO CHINJA DEMO DEMO THIS SATURDAY PADALLAS TEXAS USA ALL ZIMBABWEANS INVITED PLEASE COME TOGETHER WE WILL COMPLETE THE CHANGE.
Cde JOE SLO
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