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Post by MDC ZIMBABWE on Mar 10, 2004 9:21:47 GMT -5
What should we do to protect our members and supporters.
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Post by Spitfire on Mar 23, 2004 12:13:41 GMT -5
Arrest Kuruneri now for externslization
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Post by Guest on Mar 24, 2004 8:36:14 GMT -5
Before arresting all these small crooks... first arrest the biggest crook which is muggabbage. Anyway I think MDC supporters should for self-defence units like the ones the ANC formed during the struggle for SA's liberation. It should be run on an underground basis. The time has come now for members and the party leaders to think creatively and fight fearlessly to defend the lives and liberties of ordinary Zimbos. Freedom is coming ..... I can sense it. Morgan, Welshman, Tendai, Themba now is the time to start campaigning vigorously don't wait for next and pls add another campaign slogan to the chinja. Any suggestions pple for another slogan on top of Tshintsha???
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Post by Owebutho on Mar 30, 2004 4:08:19 GMT -5
Owebutho
The violence perpetrated on MDC members and ordinary citizens must cease in all its shape and form with immediate effect. This is a demand a command from the Zim masses , the command is directed at both MDC and ZANU PF. We deplore psychological violence as much as we deplore physical violence against human beings. Violence is a symptom of failed governments. The most worrying thing is that the whole world is biased when it comes to state sponsored terrorism. Some leading nations egotistically and arrogantly proclaim to be haters of repression and terrorism, but when it comes to Mugabe sponsored terrorism, they are found wanting. People might say what ever they want to say, they may say that the MDC is sponsored by the West or the product of the West, but the truth is that in our quest for total emancipation we will use those with the better means, means that can quash the Mugabe superiority and self-righteousness. We used countrieslike Russia and China before, so why shouldn't we use those willing to help effect positive change in Zimbabwe. Mugabe propaganda does not hold water, ZANU Pf was outside the country during the liberation struggle, it was all over the world, they know how effective it is to have genuine international solidarity, MDC is really good at this and we encourage them to continue lobbying on this scale until all forces are ready to act decisively against the regime that rules without its people's mandate. This is a bogus government, an illigitimate government, a government without shame, a government that rules and ruins effectively through fear and violence.
Mugabe might not be in possesion of chemical and biological weapons but he has a weapon of mass destruction, "AIDS", through the Green Bombers the AIDS will spread like veldfire. This is a deliberate but most stupid strategy that any caring human being can use, in the end even his own supporters will be affceted by the scorge of AIDS, AIDS needs to be curtalied, victims need help, spreading it for political reasons is a sin and offence that will never be forgiven. The greater task is for us, the people of Zimbabwe who like freedom, we like freedom because we once tasted it before we were born, we know how good and nice it is. Freedom is something worth living for and it is worth dying fighting for. We all love freedom, even oppressors love freedom, freedom is a God given human right noone must temper or abuse it because once that done, surely the rage of the people is certain. The only way to stop violence committed against innocent and defenceless people is to give them or empower them with defensive mechanisms. We are not aggressors but we are not to be anyone's punch-bags, we have a right to defend ourselves. We have a right to defend our organisation, our organisation has a right to organise its people in defensive circles that will crush and leave ZANU PF vulnerable in all its angles. No love will stop violence perpetrated by the Mugabe regime against its people, don't tell me that we have to passively resist them, but i tell you we have to actively and forcefully resist them. If you have love to give to them, withhold it now until we are free. Now we have to meet them head on. I am not suggesting that people must be violent in order to defeat violence from ZANU PF, what i am only suggesting is that we have means to defend ourselves, calculated, controlled and well-focused means. We do not have degrees in violence like Mugabe, but it does not mean that we have to be afraid of him, it means that we must not in anyway underestimate his cruelty and determination to subjugate the will of the people forever under his control even after his death.
ZANU PF plays with us because it knows that we fear it, it committs violence in order to plant fear in peole's hearts, its tactics are simple but effective in the short-run, because of deliberate myopia they think the status quo will remain this way forever. No normal human being will stay under oppression forever, oppression could only be tolerated to an extent, its elasticity is limited, when stretched beyond a limit it snaps. Fear turns to hatred, hatred turns to action and action turns to outcomes, positive outcome, i mean.
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Post by Jabulani on Apr 6, 2004 7:49:45 GMT -5
I also think we need a strategy to counter violence. You cant defeat violence by peace, or cowing down. When you are beaten, you must also beat- if we think silence will work we are joking. MUgabe said we are in a war situation, and we must not take that forgranted. We are beaten and then arrested- it is better we be arrested for something real, than to be arrested for being victims! There must be a counterviolence move so that ZANU guys fear us as well. I know this works. Last time in 2000, I was in my former constituency Zvishavane when the ZANU pple came to beat us in town. MDC had organised youths to counter that and you know what, we carried the day, and MDC got around 10 000 votes. Now I do not think it will get that if it does not counter violence.
Jabulani
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Post by Courage Shumba on Apr 10, 2004 3:59:05 GMT -5
Zanu Pf and Mugabe have had it too easy in this country.Morgan Tsvangirai has become to them a usual victim .What makes Mugabe so contemptous about the Mdc is not much of the reasons they give i.e Tsvangirai's education or his alliance with whites,or his policies on land or so forth but much more Tsvangirai's inability to turn the tables on them even when they clearly are clutching to a straw.Mugabe is pleased with Tsvangirai who he may see as simply an alarmist.I believe Mugabe may much fear a revolutionary placed in a strategic position is Tsvangirai is.Mugabe has much nothing true to say about the shortcomings of Tsvangirai as a leader.Muzenda who was the country's vice president to death was ignorant inspite of his involvement in the struggle,he hated freedom,transparency and even when he was physically incapable he lacked the morality and decency to resign to let the country move on.Zimbabwe must curse him in his death and may the eternal fire be with his soul till the end of time.Muzenda and Mugabe worked together in the massacres and dissappearences of the children of Zimbabwe in Matebeleland.They plotted and masterminded deaths of so many who marked early opposition to the gorvenance of hypocrisy.Those among them were Malunga and Chris Ushewokunze whose deaths adequately explain senior political plotting.Mugabe has nothing to say against Tsvangirai which does not reflect in his party.Whilst Mugabe lashed on Britain Zanu pf companies were in the hands of british citizens what hypocrisy and emptiness of soul.Mugabe envies Tsvangirai for being able to sit and talk with people of all races and beliefs.Any good leader must be capable of good relations with all countries.Mugabe talks about Tsvangirais education as inferior and therefore making him unsuitable to lead the country yet for all we know Muzenda had no education at all .Further even with Mugabe's millions of degrees we have never enjoyed the value of it all.I can not remember anything in Mugabes leadership that would make us appreciate his several degrees.On the contrary Mugabe with his cabinet of proffessors and doctors they have just shown how arrogant and rude intellectuals can be.Nothing suggests that the coutry is being led by literate let alone educated people.I believe asked to choose between an educated truant,despotic, sarcastic and greedy revolutionaries and uneducated liberators any society would prefer to live lives free from oppression.Mugabe and all his education is nothing more than an educated dictator .Education is nothing if it can not work its way in promoting human development and understanding.Mugabe's people cant convince that is why they have to control by threats and hitting citizens.
Tsvangirai must come forward and not address Zanu pf but the people of Zimbabwe.He must emphasize total commitment to freedom and properity.Zimbabwe is a capable nation and without Mugabe we all will live happy prosperous lives.Tsvangirai must come forward and use the time between now and 2005 to see democracy take control includig in his own party.
MUGABE MUST RUN
Courage Shumba{In Exile } Former Vice President University of Zimbabwe 2000-2001
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Post by eDMORE kwaramba on Jul 11, 2004 12:26:20 GMT -5
Dear Zimbabweans
This is just food for thought to every Zimbabwean. My question is have you ever looked at the words written below your passport picture.
It reads Unity, Freedom, and lastly work. Have you looked at that?. If you haven't please do look at it today. What you probably see is a happy face of yourself considering when you got that picture or you see a miserable face of yourself if you got that picture recently.
The other point is if you look at those three words FREEDOM,UNITY,WORK- we do not have the three of those words existing in Zimbabwe. Its true we do not have Freedom in Zimbabwe as opposition is being killed by the government. There is no unity, at all as we are constantly fighting each other and lots of division in both parties and other organisations. Lastly there is no work in Zimbabwe. Unemployment rate is hovering in the 70-75% range. Although Zimbabweans are well known to be hard working people, our country has not exploited on the labour force it has for the creation of a sound economy.
Zimbabwe is one of the countries in the world with highest tax rates. Where is the money from taxes used for. One can not really tell how we have come to be in the situation we are. Hope Mugabe is not going to be in the Forbes Margazine as one of the richest man in the world. This happened with Mabuto Seseko, and do not see any reason why Mugabe cannot do the same.
Once MDC gets in power whenever the time might be, I hope that's when we will safely talk about freedom, unity, and work.
So Comrades look at you passports today and you will be surprised at what you see, and you can also reflect on the past and the present.
Edmore Kwaramba
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Post by QM on Jul 13, 2004 8:29:24 GMT -5
It seems that Zanu-pf has already started what it knows best which is intimidation and violence. I hope that the people of zim have the strength this time around to defend their liberties by voting out these crooks and murderers. I wish I would say to people let us leave partisanship and stand together for a peaceful election but I know that the reality of the situation calls for us to fight back these crooks and bring democracy to Zimbabwe.
I call upon the youth to defend our women, children and elderly against this tyranical regime. The protection must start at local level. Although I am outside the country at the moment I am prepared to go and die for the freedom of our country if it is stolen this time around. Enough is enough people. No more court challenges this time around...........The real final push should start next year... MDC pls don't lose ground. Embark on mass protests for a free and fair election. Freedom is coming next year...get ready people for your freedom... (or nuts I miss home).
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Post by JOB on Jul 29, 2004 5:34:16 GMT -5
WITH ZANU PF VIOLENCE WILL NEVER END WITHOUT INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE. I WAS BORN AND GROWN UP AT VUMBUNU AND I EXPERIENCED THE WAR OF INDEPENDENCE IN THE 1970S
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LEARN THAT ZANU PF IS A PARTY OF BARBARIANS AND KILLERS?
THOSE WHO WISH TO SEE THE REMAINS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED BY THOSE BARBARIANS GO TO THE EDGES OF NYAMATSIRU MOUNTAIN AND SEE SKULLS AND BORNS OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE KILLED ON THE BASIS THAT THEY WERE SELL OUTS.
MBUYA MARANGE CAN NOT STAY AT HER BEAUTIFUL HOMESTEAD NEAR THE EDGES OF THE MOUNTAIN BECAUSE ITS HOUNDED BY THOSE WHO WERE KILLED BY ZANU PF AND NOT BURIED AT ALL.
I USED TO ATTEND THE PUNGWE WERE OUR ELDER SISTERS WERE RAPED I WILL NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!
SO VIOLENCE ,RAPE AND TORTURE IS THERE WAY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO AGREE.
I WAS ONCE ARRESTED AFTER POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN VUMBUNU IN THE EARLY 1980S BECAUSE OF MY POLITICAL CONVICTION TO ABLE MUZOREWA AND THAT I WAS A METHODIST. MY CASE WAS OF ATTEMPTED MURDER AND THE DAY I WAS ARRESTED WE WERE BURNING BRICKS AND I WAS ACCUSED THAT I HAD KILLED PEOPLE AND BURN THEM IN THE BRICK OVEN. HOW STUPID !
I STAYED IN DETENTION FOR 4 YEARS WITHOUT TRIAL AND SOME OF THE INSTIGATORS OF THE ARREST WERE THE MUSOSONORA FAMILY WHO WAS A ZANU PF COUNCILLOR AND HIS TWO SONS WERE WAR VETERAN AND THEIR ALLIGENCE TO ZANU PF MADE ME SUFFER IN NYANGA PRISON.
I HAD NEVER BEEN TO NYANGA BUT OVER THE 4 YEARS I ENDED UP KNOWING THE AREA BECAUSE WERE MADE TO WORK LIKE ANIMALS
MY FAMILY COULD NOT AFFORD ANY LEGAL ASSISTANCE AS MY FATHER HAD DIED IN 1975.
BEFORE I WENT TO PRISON IN THE LATE 70S Mupita's son was murdered by Mugabe's army his ears and mouth were cut off at a Pungwe and later taken to Karani Mountain over looking Osborne Dam and killed their and the body was retrieved by Ian Smith's Soldiers for decent burial
I am holed up in Europe and Iam telling you this to make sure you know that Zanu pf is a party of killers and who do not respect human life.
Clever Gutu was killed again because he was working in Mutare and was accused of being a sell out because he works with white people . What a stupid and unlearn ideology
Zimbabwe could have been better off without Mugabe he claims to be a learned man but he has created disaster for Zimbabweans.
People should remember no matter how degrees you have if you were born with stupid minds you will remain stupid.
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Post by JOB on Jul 29, 2004 8:25:38 GMT -5
LET PADDINGTON GARWE FOOL HIMSELF BY TRYING TO PUT FORWARD JUDGEMENTS TO PLEASE ZANU PF. OTHER THINGS CAN BE DONE AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT NOT JUDICIAL POLITICAL JUDGEMENTS WITH AN INTENTION TO MANIPULATE THE ELECTORATE PROCESS. THE CURRENT SITTING JUDGES FOR LIFE TO BE BETTER FOR THEM THEY HAVE TO GO INTO EXSTINCTION AND THEIR DECENDENCES OTHERWISE THEY SHALL FACE THE WRATH OF THE ZIMBABWEAN POPULATION. REMEMBER WERE IS SADDAM AND HIS HENCHMEN ? REMEMBER WERE IS MILOSOVIC AND HIS HENCHMEN ? THE WORLD'S EYES ARE NOT CLOSED YOU WILL BE SEEN AT THE RIGHT TIME AND ANSWER FOR YOUR ACTIONS. WHAT WE KNOW IS A JUDGE MUST ALWAYS UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF ZIMBABWE BUT ARE YOU DOING IT BUT ARE YOU DOING IT STRONGLY NO!!!! A JUDGE SHOULD BE A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE OF ZIMBABWE NOT A BOOT LICKER . WILL YOU THEN BE DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WHO KILLED TICHAONA CHIMINYA OR THOSE THAT ARE COMMITTING RAPE OR THOSE PROSTITUTE WITHOUT DECENCY. WHATEVER HAPPENS EVERY JUDGE WILL ANSWER FOR HIS ACTIONS. IF YOU HAVE SENSE CONSIDER THIS: JOSHUA NKOMO AT ONE TIME WAS SAID TO HAVE WANTED TO KILL MUGABE ABLE MUZOREWA WAS SAID THE SAME NDABANINGI SITHOLE WAS DONE THE SAME NOW MORGAN IS THE SAME BUT YOUR 6TH SENSE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS IS ALL RUBBISH CHIDYAUSIKU DESTROYED DAILY NEWS HE WILL PAY TIME WILL COME AS JUDGES YOU HAVE FAILED 30 PETITIONS FILED BY MDC AS JUDGES YOU HAVE FAILED 107 MDC SUPPORTERS THAT WERE KILLED BY ZANU PF IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2002 GARWE YOU FAILED THE PEOPLE OF ZIMBABWE YOU SHALL PAY THE DEAREST PRICE ON THE LAND IT IS NOT A THREAT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH AND THIS SHALL STAND CAN SOMEONE WHO WANT TO COMMIT MURDER ARRANGE WITH A CONSULTANT INSTEAD OF A MAFIA ORGANISATION EVEN A SMALL KID WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE A STUPID JUDGE WHO PRESIDE OVER FANTASY.
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Post by Eddie K on Jul 29, 2004 23:59:17 GMT -5
With the elections coming in March v2005 I really feel for those that are in Zimbabwe. As we all know all the elections that have been held in Zimbabwe have been marred by violence, torture, intimidation, harrassment etc.
If I was in Zimbabwe by now the CIO agencies would have killed me a long time ago. I under constant fear for one year. I was threatened and received anonymous calls , notes shoved under my door. I had to find sanctuary to my relatives houses. The CIO missed me in May 2001 after I had started sleeping at my relatives houses. They came to my apartment and forced their way in my house likely I was not there.
My wife and my infant child had to endured the fear and the uncertainity of what tomorrow would be like. This was simply because I stood and expressed myself on what I believed in. I supported MDC and distributed campaign materials in the avenues area.
That was what really infuriated the CIO agencies. The articles that I so did write for the Daily news meant I should be eliminated. It was by God's grace that I had to run for my life. I did not have to fly out from Zimbabwe from the Zimbabwe airport because, as we all know what happens there, When your name is on the hit list.
My deeds have followed me indirectly. Vakuru vakati mabasa akoko unovigwa muguva nawo chose( your deeds will always follow you.) Its hard to believe what has happened in my life and what is still happening in my life because of my allegiance to the MDC, and voicing what I know is right,and denouncing Mugabe regime. This really gives me more courage than ever, because what Zanu PF is doing now, will come a day when those that commit these terrible inhuman acts will be held before the courts .
EK
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Post by Vukani on Jul 30, 2004 4:18:45 GMT -5
The time has come for all this to stop. It has to stop next year because if we allow it to continue we might have to wait longer for true freedom and liberation of our beloved country. If next year's election is stolen we should embark on mass protests and stayaways until the regime succumbs to the will of the people. Enough is Enough..... Sokwanele. If we have to go to war then so be it. It is sad that we have never tasted the freedom that we supposedly got in 1980. We deserve to be free people. We don't owe Mugabe and his team of murderers anything. The only thing that we owe them is a Life sentence behind bars.
I call upon all the people of Zim Shona, Ndebele, English to come together and fight this tyrannical regime. Pls people lets vote the MDC in large numbers come next year's election. Ignore this nonsense about the MDC being a Western front. Fight violence with violence people ....... This time around we shall win.... God bless u all
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Post by Eddie K on Aug 8, 2004 18:21:15 GMT -5
What is really the role of the Police, Army, the CIO and the Judiciary In Zimbabwe:
I thought I should spell out what really are the duties of these security institutions of the government in Zimbabwe, lest they forget what are they expected of. Under normal circumstances these very important branches of the government have an obligation to protect and maintain peace and order.
Lets take a look first at what the CIO agency duties are: The primary mandate of the CIO is to collect and analyze information and subsequently to provide reports, in the form of security intelligence, to the government. CIO provides intelligence inorder to provide advance warning to government departments and agencies. The primary values of intelligence-gathering is the timely delivery of perishable information to policy makers in government. Having said that, we find that there is something wrong on how the Zimbabwean CIO organisation gathers information. They do not have the powers to brutalise and kill, torture and perpetuate acts of degradation of humankind. They are supposed to gather information and report the the government officials, through peaceful means. They are not supposed to harass opposition party members. Neither are they entitled to monitor movements of people who have a political affiliation with MDC.
Having said that what is then the role of the Judiciary? It is to interpret and apply the law and the constitution and to provide impartial adjudication of disputes between individuals: between the state and the individual:, and between different levels of government within the state. Unlike the other branches, the judiciary is not accountable to any electorate or the government for its decisions. Instead the primary obligation of judges is to the law which is designed to protect all citizens. The principal of judicial independence has been the complete liberty of individual judges to hear and decide the cases that come before them, be it government, pressure group, individual or even another judge, should interfere infact, or attempt to interfere with the way in which a judge conducts his or her case and makes his or her decision. This is not happening in Zimbabwe. The judiaciary has become Zanu PF branch that it seeks to surppress and cover up its actions. In the words of John Locke " the purpose of judiciary independence was to ensure that the law would not be varied in particular cases, but (be the same) for the rich and poor, for the favourite at court and the countryman at plough." Having said that its so miserable how the rule of law has just deteriorated in Zimbabwe. The government influences the decisions of the Judges. The Minister of Legal Affirs Chinamasa champions the out- come of decisions that involves Zanu PF. They have totally lost the respect and value that we have bestowed on our judiciary in Zimbabwe. What about our army ? What is expected of an army.The army is there to keep Zimbabwe safe from attack . It is to supplement or replace civilian services in emegency times.The army can be posted to foreign assignments as in the case of DRC through the approval of the legislators. In our case I do not remember if the parliamentarians agree on this with one voice.They can also be assigned to international or regional duties in defence of allies or for humantarian purposes.The army must be people friendly at all times, and this makes a lot of sense since its purpose is to protect the people. Our army has cultivate fear in the minds of the people. The army must be apolitical. Our Army is very much so involved in politics. They are used to disrupt peaceful demonstrations. The army is being used by Zanu PF to intimidate opposition. The army has just become an extended branch of Zanu PF.
Lastly the police force in any other state is seen and looked at as people friendly. The police force is there to maintain peace and order. The police must be accesible, approachable, helpful, and available at all times. Our police force in Zimbabwe is only available and approachable and helpful only to Zanu PF supportes and its sympathisers. Its very hostile to MDC supporters and those that show dissent towards Mugabe regime. Their normal purpose has been eroded by their biased unethical ways they conduct their dutries in Zimbabwe. The police has just become NO 1 enemy of the people which it is supposed to protect. The police does not have any powers to harass, beat, torture or intimidate the masses of Zimbabwe. Their purpose is to maintain peace and order. They must carry their duties without due influnce from the politicians. The police must not be corrupt as is the situation in our country. Zanu PF has just torn our constitution into pieces Zimbabwe. Zanu PF does not have respect and dis- regards our the constitution. Zanu PF does not believe in the rule of law any more. Zanu Pf has control over all these four branches of the goverrnment. Zanu PF canaot distinguish the roles of these important securuty forces of Zimbabwe. It is using these forces to crash opposing voices. This has had a devastating effect in Zimbabwe. We as citizens of Zimbabwe, we should now think of a way to educate those at the reigns of power of control of these organisations, to seriously think that they are the ones who are being used to prolong the life of Zanu PF. The policeman or policewoman is just like any other individual in Zimbabwe who is feeling the hardships and the surpression and intimidation. So this goes as well with the soldier, CIO agencies and the judges. You must start to resist perfoming your duties unethical. You must start to voice your concerns as citizens of Zimbabwe too. You must fight for your own liberation as a force of securuty in Zimbabwe. Do not be used for political gains or purposes by a party. The constitution stipulates that there is nobody above the law in Zimbabwe and you got to know that even our President is not above the law in Zimbabwe. A wise man will always hear and act.
I pen off for today
Eddie K.
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Post by jambanja on Aug 17, 2004 19:46:14 GMT -5
Well it is time to take violence to Zanu PF. We must not be intimidated every time by these people because they are just like us. Lets beat them hard this time around.
Lets have jambanja chairo panext elections.
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Post by JOB RUKANDA on Sept 1, 2004 8:56:31 GMT -5
Ndakashamiswa zvikuru pandakaona nyaya yakasungirwa Makamba.
Vana Chihuri vakutoshandiswa kushunga vaMakamba vachifungidzirwa kunzi vari kuhura namai venyika.
Ko nhai vamwe vangu hufeve zvinoreva ku externalisation foreign currency here?
Ko ivo mai vacho ava vakanaka zvakaita sei? vanotonzi munhu wese watora mukadzi wangu
Idzi ndidzo mhosva dzinotongwa naishe Mangwende idzi.
I nga Joshua Nkomo akakuudzayi kuti ukatora zvechisimba uchatorerwawo nechisimba
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