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Post by muchadura on Jan 14, 2005 13:47:24 GMT -5
there is no question about the MDC is leadership. the MDC have been supressed. i want to now what people expected of the MDC. the situation in Zim is impossible for the MDC leadership to do anything. its upto to the people to go to streets and call for the change.
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Post by muchadura on Jan 14, 2005 13:48:27 GMT -5
there is no question about the MDC is leadership. the MDC have been supressed. i want to now what people expected of the MDC. the situation in Zim is impossible for the MDC leadership to do anything. its upto to the people to go to streets and call for the change.
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Post by zvese on Jan 14, 2005 19:58:06 GMT -5
Chinja, its unfortunately true that a lot of people are members of the MDC for Asylum purposes and a lot of them hardly understand the role which they should even after they get granted the asylum. I know a dozen or so people in Atlanta who have conviniently used the MDC to get Asylum but are the biggest opponents of the party.The same people queu up for Homelink goodies and right now are busy applying for the Zanu PF housing loans too. Sad to say that guys like Denny, Regis etc in DC were only using the party to make money from asylum applicants and this brings some truth in the fact that perhaps Denny could have been a Zanu implant in there as shown by his ties to Mawere and Munangagwa. The truth about MDC USA is that it has been infiltrated by people who do not really share the ideals to remove Mugabe. People like you Chinja are very rare in that party and you will be the first to admit that for sure the others in the MDc leadership do not share the same ideals. Instead a lot of the leaders in Atlanta here concentrated on using the MDC as a platform to start up their own small business or even make a little bit of money from selling this or that to members. Mr Madera himself has made quite a bit of money too processing asylum cases and I doubt if some of the money for cards etc found its way into the MDC coffers. The people who share the ideals that you have Chinja are afraid of tainting themselves by associating with some of these bad apples. We need the USA MDC to pass a litmus test before we can all go in there and really believe what everyone is saying. As MDC, the focus now should be on winning the elections by engaging in Campaigns, rallies, door to door, meetings, adverts on Stone FM, zimnet radio, afrosounds and even Short wave radio (this has a large listenership back home just like what Radio Mozambique was during the days of the struggle) You Chinja can make a dramatic change in the way the MDC is structured in USA but you need to take a good look at who is around you. As a professional you are talented with a career which does not lead you into using the MDC for some money to pay bills. Une basa rako rakanaka nad you do not rely on squeezing other Zimbos to make a living and that is why I read your posts when I see them. All you need to do is to change your crowd and a lot of people will join you.
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Post by Munjanja on Jan 17, 2005 5:13:36 GMT -5
Chinoz, when last have you been home What do you think internet is I think I am as important to my party as Farayi Moyo of Jerera, Zaka. I am going to jump the boarder to vote for these guys and I need to know them well. Remember the secret is to call all the people who can vote, how are going to recruit Masimba M of Wits University or anyone whose only link to Zim is internet We are all the povo and after all this forum must be as popular as the New Zimbabwe. com. We need our MPs here
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Post by chinoz on Jan 17, 2005 7:02:09 GMT -5
I have ALWAYS been home. Never been a refugee of any kind or sort.
Munjanja, how many MDC MPs have reliable access to the Internet (if any!!) ?
Get my point, the Internet is not a MASS media.
If you doubt me, let us wait and see how many MDC MPs will respond to your dream.
Dream on Munjanja.
Let us get real. PLEASE.
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Post by zesamoto on Jan 18, 2005 14:10:46 GMT -5
MDcC leadership please stop illtreating young turks like Sikhala of St Mary's constituency. Please hudzvanyiriri hweZANU(PF). Why cant leadership accept ideas and even criticism.This is the best chance to wrest power from the oppressive government so please unite. Stop this unionism versus academics rubbish and concentrate on dislodging Mugabe's regime through the ballot box.
Why are the MDC leaders not taking advantage of the splits in the ruling party? Make noise about it for goodness sake
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Post by Munjanja on Jan 19, 2005 2:22:18 GMT -5
Well zesamoto I dont know what you are saing about Hwihwa Sikhala. The list I know is what the Herald's gosip writer had said about him needing a job and starting an Urban based party. But as I know Mkoma Job is a loyal son of the MDC. After all he was born in Gutu where our leader Morgan's rukuvhute is. But Chinoz are you goin to talk about macopolo and copolo walking in Highfields again bro? Well i am not I am talking reality and these MPs are ours. Is it that the party chose the guys who cant even afford a computer and a PTC line? Or are they too bussy to be bothered aby an anctious Karanga who need a word or two with them
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Post by Mdc Ndizvo on Jan 20, 2005 15:06:25 GMT -5
MDC Can take 40 more seats from Zanu pf if campaigning is managed properly
The effort by the MDC leadership to level the playing field should be supported as any efforts without a free and fair election are just a waste of time. Results from the last elections indicate that there are a number of seats that can be easily won by MDC. The MDC leadership should gather resouces for heavy campagning in marginal seats especially peri urburn seats and some rural seats in Masvingo Midlands and Manicaland. There are several seats that were won by ,MDC in the last election but were given to Zanu pf and this is not supposed to be repeated. Every effort must be made to ensure there will be no more rigging in the following cinstituencies to name a few. Kariba, Chinhoyi, Marondera, Zvishavane, Masvingo South( Mashava). And many others. We should not take voters for granted but should campaign door to door and come up with projects for the electorate that will improve their living standards. There is a general campaign for the improvement of the economy but I believe if we are to be succesfull there is need for projects that relate to individual constituences. Shadow MPS and seating MPS should gather information from local activists about what is needed in local communities and come up with practical solutions for the people. In the last election MP's complained about the lack of support from the party in terms of financial contribututions and even campagning material. We were young then and we should not repeat the same mistakes this time around. There has to be an election campaign team drawn from every district which will work flat out until the end. There were some people who were chosen to represent the party but did nothing and hoped people would vote for them because they belonged to MDC, this is when the election campaign team should work to prevent ensuring there is heavy campagning in every constituent. Even in urburn areas there must be campagining otherwise there will be voter apathy. The party should also talk to loosing candidates from the recent primary elections in Zanu pf. We are aware of many that have local support who were sidelined by the party, these must be either encouraged to stand as indipendents or to campaign for MDC . There are many out there who are just waiting for the opportunity to be invited into the party and will help us in weakening Zanu pf's hold on rural seats. We stand a realistic chance of taking 40 ormore seats from Zanu pf this time around.
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Post by Munjanja on Jan 22, 2005 4:26:56 GMT -5
I cant agree more with you Ndizvo. wabaya dede, Here in SA the people are pushing the president and the ANC big fish to confront the Zim issue or risk to loose the Local Govt elections. People are fed up by seeing the increase in Zim refugees. Mostly the economical refugees who are being subjected to work as cheap labour, they are a threat to SA's unimployment. I also want to thank Smuts Ngonyama of ANC, Zwelinzima Vavi of COSATU and Tony Leon of DA for confronting the Zimbabwean issue as a regional problem " Ke a leboa bana beso!"
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Post by chinoz on Jan 23, 2005 5:08:54 GMT -5
Munjanaj, you claim..
Well how many MPS have reponded to your call so far?. ;D REALITY CHECK my brother.
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Post by wezhira Mukaranga on Jan 31, 2005 5:12:19 GMT -5
What is John selling on those hotel sites This is a political site and Mugabe is our common enemy, we are not a luxurous lot PLIZ Mafesi angu Ino inguva yeduwo Makaranga yekutonga
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Post by Ndwangenkulu on Feb 10, 2005 16:14:13 GMT -5
I would like to invite you to a rich and satisfying discussion on the political face of Zimbabwe. You can meet me at www.zimdaily.com and check out on Kwaramba's column. Meet you there, and if you feel you would like a responce from me, feel free to do so by writing a letter or email me on eddie.kwaramba@zimdaily.com
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Post by Munjanja on Feb 11, 2005 5:38:58 GMT -5
Where is Chinoz I want to say I am sorry
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Post by kenny on Mar 5, 2005 2:47:25 GMT -5
MDC must learn to abuse the ZANU strategy. For Instance ZANU is good at informationn discemination because of its having liars like Shamuyarira , and Mugabe himself who was NDP's information secretary in 1960. MDC must learn to handle information and hit out its facts continuously in the papers- in the Independent papers weekly- ;D let it buy space in those papers and campaign. ;D As well, it needs to restore its former 1999/2000 moves where it always made use of fliers ;Dwhich were usually dropped everywhere on the road at night. This helped popularise the party a lot in that time, and we liked it. Certainly i was on of the first members of theParty in 1999 at the UZ, but those in the extremely rural areas only joined it :obecause they saw that sort of information in the bush - where the herald could not reach, or was too expensive to be bought . I also think we need a strategy to counter violence. ;DYou cant defeat violence by peace , or cowing down. When you are beaten, you must also beat- if we think silence will work we are joking. MUgabe said we are in a war situation, and we must not take that forgranted. We are beaten and then arrested- it is better we be arrested for something real , than to be arrested for being victims! ;D There must be a counterviolence move so that ZANU guys fear us as well. I know this works. Last time in 2000, I was in my former constituency Zvishavane when the ZANU pple came to beat us in town. MDC had organised youths to counter that and you know what, we carried the day, and MDC got around 10 000 votes. ;D ;D Now I do not think it will get that if it does not counter violence. Lastly, please discipline the Harare councellors ;D,and if there be money, give them incentives to keep heads up against Chombo ;D- and as well, I think MDC is too slow to help Mudzuri fight his war which is collectively ours. It must stage mass action, using the Harare pple simply to show its force in that town which is its stronghold. ;D ;D ;D ;D Bye for now
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Post by power on Mar 7, 2005 21:36:17 GMT -5
Only advice we Zimbabweans living abroad can give to our fellow Zim's back out there is : hey guys, everything comes to an end, Even the afrikaaners had their tuime by the time Mandela was locked in for 27 years, missing out on spending quality time with his wife and kids, and he got out in the end. Now it's a free south africa (at least europeans think it is) not to metion the endless rising crime rate in Johannesburg, but this aint about south Africa, we all know what it's about. So neither of us are stupid here, all of us must play our part in doing the necessary, for the future of our beloved country, the future of our children etc. We can't let things come to this right in front of our own eyes! I hope we all learnt something from last time's elections, how could we ever forget. We are right behind you guys, do your parts over there, we'll also do whatever we can to ensure a better future. God is watching from up there and he's not stupid, one day he'll interfere and destroy just like he did with Soddom and Gomorrah, watch!
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