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Post by MDC ZIMBABWE on Apr 5, 2005 9:48:02 GMT -5
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Post by shame on Apr 5, 2005 15:31:16 GMT -5
I feel very much cheated by the rural masses of zimbabwe or may be that's the way cyclone zanu operates.To tell you the truth mates I am at my lowest spirits worse off than the 2002 presidential elections.Guys why don't we stand up and summon urgent court hearings for the unfair rigging of elections.It should be pay back time for Zanu.We should not allow the swearing in of Mps until we prove beyond any shadow of reasonable doubt that we won the election.change demands action.
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Post by joe on Apr 6, 2005 1:44:49 GMT -5
I think that the whole of MDC leadership, Morgan and his MPs that have lost and won should be on the streets. Even if it means they will be imprisoned, this will bring the worlds attention to the plight of Zimbabweans. Ordinary civilains will obviously follow where there is decisive and strong leadership. Do something MDC, the time is now because if time goes it may be too late to do anything as the world attention would have mived from the recent Zimbabwe elections.
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Post by zimbo on Apr 6, 2005 1:54:03 GMT -5
why do we have to wait for the leaders to do our wok for us what do we have to do for our selves? lets us the people who have been cheated act now lets come up with ideas for a final push that will work. lets come up with a date for us all to march in protest. they might arrest, beat or kill us but they can never silance us.
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Post by Angry Zimbabwean on Apr 6, 2005 2:08:42 GMT -5
People of Zimbabwe, ..ITS TIME FOR CHANGE.. So far much talking has been done, talking about people starving, talking about 500% inflation, talking about police and army beating families.. No actions yet, lets stand up for our rights. The right to democracy. Zimbabwe currently does not know what democracy means, the people decide... ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS Lets take to the streets, together, with numbers we still have the power to be heard and in light of the recent elections the world is still watching Zimbabwe.
SATURDAY 9TH MAY, MASS DEMONSTRATION, START PRINCE EDWARD SCHOOL, 9AM
Please, people of Zimbabwe, reply, give us your thoughts to this.. Time for change is now, otherwise it might be too late..
Zimbabwe is our home
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Post by Mass Action Angry Zimbabwean on Apr 6, 2005 2:14:30 GMT -5
Lets restart our economy, people of Zimbabwe, unite, spread the word and express your views
Chinja
SEE YOU THERE SATURDAY 9TH MAY, MASS DEMONSTRATION, START PRINCE EDWARD SCHOOL, 9AM
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Post by Rose on Apr 7, 2005 4:28:04 GMT -5
Mudzuri for President, we need leaders with courage who can lead the MDC to victory.
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Post by Honest on Apr 8, 2005 4:08:04 GMT -5
Learn from Madagascar........................
" Deaclare a parallel Government....." and you will see the people.
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Post by Baba vaT on Apr 8, 2005 6:53:23 GMT -5
I think all the elected MDC candidates must boycott the swearing in of all MPs which is scheduled for 12 April 2005. If they wanted to boycott the elections this is another chance for them to show their dissatisfaction.
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Post by chalton on Apr 8, 2005 8:23:22 GMT -5
Everyone knows that Zanupf rigs elections i am surprised by the people who are surprised by the recent outcome.
I agree with Arch Bishop Ncube we lack a Mandela someone we can offer his life to lead the people of Zimbabwe out of this misery and slavery.
The current leadership of MDC should not mislead Zimbabweans; to talk of a fresh election is tantamount to insulting our intelligence. In 2002 they talked about a rerun were are we now.
They keep avoiding the obvious option which is mass action. Yes Zimbabwe is not kiev i agree Coltart because in Kiev people dont spent days without eating, there is no acute shortage of basic foodstuffs, they have petrol and above all they have not been misruled for 25 years by one person lets be honest guys.
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Post by GAVA on Apr 9, 2005 0:27:13 GMT -5
This is the time when MDC must show us its leadership[ skills,They must tell us what is disaster management ?& how do they intend to manage such a disaster?they should not mantion by going to courts becoz there is no rule of law in zim every one knows that. we have to fight the regime inorder to get the rule of law.those who rule by a sword can on be removed from power by a sword.To MDC Leadership if you can't lead by example why can't you just call it a day .we are sick & tired of you going to courts knowing very well that you won't achieve justice. Let's start an armed srtuggle thats the only solution, lets start by hitting strategic points eg police stations ,oil depots ,army camps etc we ll' do the hit & run first untill they agree to a new constituetion if they resist we go into a full scale war . mukai /bukani MDC.
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Post by Jambanja paState House on Apr 9, 2005 15:58:18 GMT -5
The struggle goes beyond voting. We need a vigilant leadership to show us the way and we will do the work on the ground. Who can lead us. No swearing in for Parliamentarians till everything is cleared. How do you allow a thief into the house and wait for the courts to declare him a thief. A thief is a thief period. Stand for our rights. MDC its now or never coz if swearing in is allowed they will rush to amend the constitution and make us irrelevant. Why wait to be killed when you can prevent death. Guqula now not later. No parliament seating till we have genuine results. If MDC leaders are scared tell us and we lead our own way.
Amandla. Awetu.
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Post by koko on Apr 10, 2005 10:29:44 GMT -5
MDC please save Zimbabwe. Tell Blair and Bush to remove sanctions. Zimbabweans have suffered enough. If the economy continues to fall after they remove their sanctions, then we all know it is Mugabe's fault. As it is you can not clain clean hands for the suffering of people and the destruction of the economy, if you have normal concience.
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Everything possible should be done in Zimbabwe to build national unity.
Nothing, or very little, will be achieved in any sphere of Zimbabwean life without national unity. It will be impossible to achieve meaningful economic recovery without unity in Zimbabwe among all the contending political and social forces in that country.
But there is a strong external factor to any progress in the political and economical situation in Zimbabwe. There are powerful external forces that want to see nothing short of regime change in that country. They are not interested in whatever efforts, or concessions, the ZANU-PF government led by Robert Mugabe will make. All that they want to see is Mugabe out. This is the position the United States, Britain and their allies in the European Union are pushing on Zimbabwe.
They have literally declared war on Zimbabwe. We say this because this is what the economic and other sanctions they have imposed on that country amount to. And from Iraq, the world has learnt that when these countries have taken a position to change a regime they never want to hear anything positive coming out of, or about, such a country. This explains why they are not interested in the great improvements that were made by the government and the people of Zimbabwe in the conduct of last week's parliamentary elections. They don't like this because it does not aid their case for a regime change.
Sadly, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has found itself caught in this regime change agenda and equally does not want to accept anything short of that. And erroneously they think that the Americans and the British are calling for a regime change to aid MDC's campaign. No, they are not doing it for MDC. They are doing it for themselves, for their own political and economic agendas. Who is Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of MDC, to British Prime Minister Tony Blair or United States President George Bush?
Actually, and in truth, it is Tsvangirai who is aiding Blair and Bush's agenda. They don't want to see unity in Zimbabwe because such unity will not aid their agenda. They want to continue to see Zimbabweans fighting and killing each other.
Therefore, the unity that United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan is rightly calling for in Zimbabwe will not be realisable without the external factor to the Zimbabwean situation being addressed. By this we mean the cessation of negative interference by the United States and the British governments in the internal affairs of that sovereign nation.
Which sensible government in the world will allow its country to be treated like a Banana Republic? And it is this external factor that threatens and weakens democracy and the observance of human rights in Zimbabwe by forcing the Mugabe government to take a defensive position in the midst of this regime change campaign. That country, a country that is almost at war, cannot be expected to be democratic in the way the word is known. A country that is not at peace cannot be expected to achieve the high levels of democratic benchmarks that are being expected out of Zimbabwe. We saw this in the recently ended Iraqi elections where these benchmarks had to be lowered because the country was not at peace.
In a situation where peace prevails, democracy can take many forms. It is therefore necessary that the United States, Britain and their allies take a more responsible approach to the Zimbabwean question. And if they don't have one, South African President Thabo Mbeki's approach is there for them to follow, or at least support.
The regime change approach might have worked in Iraq and elsewhere but we don't think it will work in Zimbabwe - the conditions, circumstances and both the subjective and objective factors are very different.
Zimbabwe today is still under the leadership of nationalists, former freedom fighters who spent many years in racist jails and in the bush waging a very difficult guerrilla warfare, and they may not easily accept the humiliation of being seen to have accepted some form of recolonisation. Probably this explains the anger being exhibited by Mugabe and his comrades - wrong or right. They will be prepared to fight to the bitter end, even at the risk of being exterminated.
Therefore, the responsibility to build the climate of confidence in Zimbabwe that Annan is calling for does not only fall on the shoulders of Mugabe and his government but also on Bush, Blair and indeed Tsvangirai.
Relevant Links Southern Africa Zambia Sustainable Development Zimbabwe Conflict, Peace and Security We are confident that left alone, and with the support of their African brothers and sisters, the people of Zimbabwe will resolve their differences and govern their country in a manner that will fulfil their political, social and economic aspirations.
It is therefore necessary for the United States and Britain to give effect to Annan's call by refraining from interfering in Zimbabwe's internal affairs and by accepting and respecting the results of last week's parliamentary elections that have been certified as free and fair by all the African observers. And if the United States and Britain want to participate and help the economic recovery of that country, they should do so by engaging in constructive dialogue with all the political forces in that country, in a manner that promotes national unity in Zimbabwe and meaningful international cooperation. This is the only way a climate of confidence, which is essential for that country's national unity and economic recovery, can be built.
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Post by Zim Renaissance on Apr 10, 2005 14:41:11 GMT -5
Koko you seem to be brainwshed by Zanu PF with the statement above. I repeat there are no sanctions against Zimbabwe at all. From UK, USA, Canada, Australia, EU and even Asia.
What we have are travel sanctions usually refered to as Smart Sanctions against thieves, murderers, corrupt people, perpetrators of violence against defenceless citizens of Zimbabwe, people who mis-manage our economy and some of them are Mugabe, Made, Chihuri, Chiwenga, Nkomo, Goche, hapless Chombo, witless Mangwana, ever shopping Grance Mugabe, brianless Mohadi, spineless Mujuru etc I hope you catch the drift.
All companies and businesses that are left in Zimbabwe are allowed to trade worldwide if they can compete, which we know without forex is not possible.
So try another excuse to blame others and not The Mugabe Regime. You can also blame Zimbabweans for not kicking them out of power.
Pangu ndasiya ndapedza.
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Post by TM on Apr 11, 2005 2:32:51 GMT -5
Can Professor Welshman Ncube explain to Zimbabweans why it is right for the MDC to take up seats in parliament? His earlier explaination is not so different from that of Justice Chiweshe (explaining away the huge differences in number of votes cast!)-we need convincing answers Welshman-you can do better! Is the MDC's contribution going to be any different from what it was in the last parliament where MDC MPs made good contributions but were not taken seriously? Do MDC MPs make an effort to get the hansard to as many people as possible in their areas so that people do not read about the contributions of the MDC from the Herald?
What is the MDC doing about the story reported in sunday Standard concerning the Zaka DA who had seven ballot boxes and unused ballot papers at his home?
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